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As is inevitable in a situation like this, the dialog around Bora Zivkovic’s harassment of women has moved beyond his actions and resignations, and is now looking at the larger community and what sort of operational changes need to be made. This is clearly a more opaque process at Scientific American, since they have remained mostly silent–one presumes on the advice of lawyers. For Science Online, it’s a debate that’s happening out in public, on blogs and Twitter. Over the weekend, Chad Orzel saw comments I made on Twitter, and it motivated him to put forth his own specific take on the core issue affecting Science Online right now. Orzel’s post is well worth the read, both for the history of this particular blogging group and the Science Online conference. Orzel’s summary of the problem is this:

Science Online has been trying to split the difference between functioning as a kind of professional society for science communicators and a party of a bunch of like-minded friends.

It was in talking to someone over the weekend–and my apologies, there were a lot of conversations and they’ve gotten more than a bit blurry–where I realized that for me (and I want to stress, as always, that this is my, and only my, opinion), the difference that Orzel points out, and that I was commenting about on Twitter, boils down to this: does Science Online want to be a con or a conference?

One of the reasons this is a useful question for me is that is addresses another problem that’s been heard a bit: people feeling excluded, that there is an “in club” or a group of “rock stars names,” and the difficulty in interacting with people you only ‘know’ via Twitter or blogs–especially when they’re hanging out with and talking to their friends.

It is, in short, a debate around manners.

Now, don’t get me wrong. Cons are fun! I have been to more than my fair share, and have the requisite “dumb things done in a hotel stairwell” stories (note: stay with laser tag; paintball doesn’t go over well with hotel security and staff). Cons are places to go to hang out with people who have similar interests from diverse backgrounds: that Klingon language expert in the amazing outfit works for the post office during the day; the exacting costume of a gender-swapped Fourth Doctor was made by a chemistry professor; the Matrix agent over there is an FBI agent with a really cheeky costume. You meet an amazing range of people, and you’re all there because you have an interest in whatever the topic–broad or narrow–that the con has.

Cons also have guests, people that are a draw for con-goers. There are generally meet’n’greets with these “name” guests, and chances to at least briefly interact with a con-goer. Hearing them talk, getting an autograph, having a brief bit of contact, is a highlighting point of a con. ComicCon and the long line waits is an excellent example of this.

Cons also typically have room parties, lots of drinking, lots of socializing, and more than a few complaints about how women are treated. There is generally con staff to keep things calm, and at larger cons, con security.

In short, cons are short events–3-5 days–of people getting together, geeking out over a show or topic, drinking a lot, socializing a lot, and having fun.

A conference shares a lot in common with this model, to be sure. A lot of socializing still happens in bars and around alcohol, and there are still the “names” of the field. People are coming together because of interest on a topic, although it generally involves less cosplay. The focus is more on sharing knowledge and information about new research and developments, sharing and improving skill sets, and re-establishing (or making) professional/collegial friendships and networking opportunities.

While I’ve been to (and organized) many conferences, I’ve never seen one with room parties that are clearly sanctioned, and a different set of manners tends to occupy the space.

In particular, there is a strong difference in how “names” of the field are handled. At a con, guests (“names”) will have handlers. Handlers remind the guest to get to where they need to go on time, and often function as body guards, keeping the con-goer at a bit of a distance, making sure the guest isn’t bothered on the way to the restroom or food or just a break. And con-goers acknowledge these boundaries; there are specific places to interact with these names. It might be cool to bump into someone at the bar, but there’s no expectation of it–and even if it does happen, there’s no expectation that anything other than a cool story will come of it. And if a con-goer breaks any of these implicit or explicit rules of interaction, they can easily be ejected from the con.

At a conference, the rules for “names” is a bit different. They don’t generally have handlers, and it’s acknowledged that they’ll be popular nexuses whenever they’re on the floor, whether that’s their talk, between sessions, or in the hotel lobby bar in the evening. At the same time, this ease of access and networking also puts responsibility on the conference-goer: no accosting the “name” on the way to the restroom or in an elevator, no trying to steal away time alone to ask for favours. Networking and socializing is done in the open, best manners are on display, and quite typically, the drinking is kept to a minimum (at least early in the evening) and folks maintain something of a professional atmosphere in public spaces; these are, after all colleagues and potential employers, and no one wants to shoot themselves in the foot by demonstrating impolite or “bad” behaviour.

And that, in short, is why this seems to me a question of manners and direction. At a Star Trek convention, very few people attending as con-goers expect that their interaction is anything but social and personal; it’s not a professional event for them, even if it is a professional event for the guests of the con. At an academic or professional conference, the majority of people in attendance are doing so for professional reasons and it’s a professional event, even as it brings together friends that for distance and convenience haven’t been seen since the last conference everyone was at.

Orzel’s history of Science Online clearly shows that it started out as an excuse for friends to hang out; it was a baby con. In the intervening years, it’s grown larger, and the mission of an UNconference has become more diversified. And now there’s a tipping point, where attendees and conference organizers need to have a conversation about what kind of place the Science Online annual meeting is.

Is it a con where people go for primarily personal and social reasons, with any job/networking opportunity a secondary benefit, or is it a conference people attend for primarily professional reasons of networking and education, with social and personal justifications a secondary consideration?

Either model is valid! One is not inherently better than the other, but both models require that people–from organizers to attendees to guest speakers–know what they’re participating in, because the rules become a little different. The social space and the professional space can overlap, but it’s a mistake to assume that they’re the same.

Note: I realize I am grossly generalizing about both cons and conferences. However, I am relatively convinced that the general model of primary/secondary benefits differing is accurate, even if there are conferences out there where, by midnight, you’d be hard-pressed to differentiate from a con.

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18 Responses to “Is Science Online a Con or a Conference?”

  1. on 21 Oct 2013 at 1:56 pmrocza

    In which I badly fumble my way towards the difference between a con and a conferece: #sciox #scicomm

  2. on 21 Oct 2013 at 2:01 pmhelenchappell

    Spot on by @rocza. Is #sciox a con or a conference? The two I’ve attended felt like a mix of both.

  3. on 21 Oct 2013 at 2:10 pmneva9257

    Is @ScienceOnline a con or a conference? @rocza examines how each model navigates etiquette and inclusiveness #sciox

  4. on 21 Oct 2013 at 2:46 pmj_perkel

    Excellent posts today on #sciox from @scicurious ( @orzelc ( @rocza (

  5. on 21 Oct 2013 at 3:31 pmorzelc

    Nice post by @rocza on SciO walking line between “con” and “conference” Ceveat: “con” here means “media con”

  6. on 21 Oct 2013 at 3:45 pmKris

    I think this is a great assessment of the Con vs. Conference models. I think you are setting up a bit of a false dichotomy for SciOnline. The big draw of Science Online is the blending of the two. I went to my first big Cos Play Con this summer (*DragonCon) it was NOTHING like Science Online. First of all everyone at Science online is both a star and part of the general public of attendees. The limited size of the conference ensures this is possible. Rather than an Us/them split there is just the US. I like that. That is the major reason I loved my inaugural Science Online Conference last February. I think if it were to tip in either direction then I would not be inclined to attend in the future.

  7. on 21 Oct 2013 at 5:30 pmKelly

    Really? I have to say, the one thing I heard over and over at SciOnline (my first was 2013 as well) was that there was such a big us/them divide, between the rock stars of science communication and everyone else. This seemed to be especially keenly felt among people who were presenting and weren’t a “name”–their sessions were hardly attended, whereas the “rock star” sessions were always overflowing. And I certainly know many of those who get elevated to that “rock star” pedestal have felt the pressure of such (I’ve asked).

    I definitely think that the intent is that everyone is equal, but it’s very hard for that to be the reality when, well, that’s not the reality. (And in fact, I would argue that it’s one of the issues that allowed the harassment to spiral out of control: pretending everyone is equal ignores the power imbalance, as I believe Chad was noting.)

    And many folks over the weekend have noted that by limiting the size of the conference, the idea that it’s not exclusive goes right out the window. (Especially since, again, people who are viewed as “rock stars” are guaranteed invitations because they will be presenting. They don’t have to worry about trying to register around life/family/work, or deal with the rush/pressure of getting a rare ticket.)

    But, it’s all just my take on it–ultimately, it’s up to the Science Online board to decide what’s the right course for them.

  8. on 21 Oct 2013 at 5:31 pmrocza

    Is @ScienceOnline a con or a conference? #sciox Discussion in comment argues for “both”.

  9. on 21 Oct 2013 at 5:37 pmmrhunsaker

    RT @rocza: Is @ScienceOnline a con or a conference? #sciox Discussion in comment argues for “both”.

  10. on 21 Oct 2013 at 5:39 pmneva9257

    Interesting comments about whether or not @ScienceOnline is (or should be) a conference or con at by @rocza

  11. on 21 Oct 2013 at 5:46 pmZen Faulkes

    Anyone who wants to go to Science Online in the future should email Karyn Traphagen with comments and opinions on this sort of questions: karyn AT scienceonline DOT com.

  12. on 21 Oct 2013 at 9:12 pmJohn Bruno

    You are dead on Kelly! It is all CON!

  13. on 21 Oct 2013 at 9:46 pmKelly

    Definitely; I plan on putting my suggestions on this blog, in the interest of transparency, but will definitely be emailing Karyn directly. I just haven’t quite figured out what my suggestions are (at least beyond the ones I’ve already made). I’ll be sure to include that request and Karyn’s email in the next post I make, too!

  14. on 22 Oct 2013 at 10:35 amnature_brains

    MT @rocza Is SciOnline a con or a conference?: #sciox #scicomm Important question moving forward

  15. on 24 Oct 2013 at 12:08 pmEva Amsen (@easternblot)

    I asked this same question on Twitter two years ago (or maybe even last year) and everyone was all “noooo, it’s a CONFERENCE”, but yeah, to me it feels more like a con(vention). Which is fine! But it does tread the line a little bit.

    Just some unsorted observations:

    -I can easily claim at work my attendance at SpotOn London (solo, formerly Science Online London), because it’s clearly a place where publishers and academics go to talk about science online.

    -I’m probably going to pay my own way to Scio14 (I have a guaranteed spot after organising a watch party last year) because even if my work-related session gets accepted, 90% of the meeting is, for me, not work-related. It’s probably more work-related for many other people, though, and I’ve heard from science writers that for them sciox is more relevant than solo.

    -Both conferences started out the same way, as a science bloggers meetup.

    -I went to scio in 2007 (the first one!) and in 2009 and have been following all other years online. It has always felt unstructured. That doesn’t have to be a bad thing (see my point about sci foo later) but it’s part of the con-feel.

    -Some big academic conferences have a similar social scene around it, but usually as fringe events NOT organised by the main conference organisers. At SpotOn as well, the fringe programme this year is organised by StoryCollider and Science Showoff – they’re mentioned on the main program, but they’re not part of it and clearly separate from the conference itself.

    -The closest in mood to sciox I’ve been to are probably barcamps and Sci Foo, where the purpose is to make everyone equal and not have invited speakers or prescheduled talks. I think this was the kind of mood that sciox is (was?) aiming for, based on the fact that they call the model “unconference”, but the system is very different from that at scifoo, where I as a random unknown had an equal chance at getting a session (which I did) as the Nobel Laureates and famous people in attendance. At sciox there is a voting/judging system and lots of recruiting people beforehand to be part of the proposal process that tends to sway the program to the same people every year. (Also because newbies aren’t used to this system)

  16. […] Twitter, but I wanted to throw my endorsement behind it, as well. Right now, one of the things that blurs the line between convention and conference for Science Online is that the drinking appears officially endorsed. As has already been […]

  17. on 24 Oct 2013 at 2:58 pmKelly

    Eva, I just wanted to say thanks, and note how blown away I was by both your thoughtfulness and the putting together of some of the problems with the presentation of the unconference model!

  18. on 24 Oct 2013 at 4:13 pmEva

    I’ve organised a bunch of scibarcamps, so I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about it. Example:

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